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I don't know if this information is common knowledge, or even if anyone else cares (yet), but Dacia have completely dropped the painted front and rear bumpers for the entire plastic portions of the Duster Access model produced from Jan 2015 onwards. Which if anyone hasn't seen yet makes the model look very cheap and dated.

When I complained at the dealers about not only the new lack of painted bumpers, but also the lack of passing on the savings associated with the cost cutting to the consumer, after a bit of pressure they then showed me an email from Dacia which was for "internal use"! Dacia sent an internal memo to all dealers stating that "they were removing the painted front/rear bumpers from the Access model to make it easier for dealers to upsell to Ambiance or Laureate models".

What frustrates me is that they try to get people in the doors by offering seemingly great value prices - originally £8995.00 for a new 4x2 Access model (now £9495.00). And then they are actively and unsympathetically trying to con gullible people into parting with more cash than they can afford for higher spec models by continually reducing the desirability and cost cutting on the budget model.

I'm not a hater or badge snob and I was a big fan of the Dacia brand and budget/value concept with proper ability for on and off road use, but after the rust issues and now this underhanded tactic it's the final blow for Dacia for me. I was literally about to purchase an Access 4x4 for £11,495 but I have now done the maths and walked away after waking up to the shocking and underhanded tactics from Dacia!

If anyone is interested I don't want the Ambiance or Laureate models because they are more expensive and for me defeat the object of a budget 4x4, I don't want a diesel engine and I don't want aircon or other gadgets and gizmos. I just want a simple, honest, budget 4x4 and the Access was the perfect answer to that, before they started making it look like it is something from the 80's/90's.

If there are any other prospective Access purchasers joining me in this boycott please comment as I'm sure it would interesting for Dacia UK (if they ever come across this) to know how many customers they have turned away...
 

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agreed G.....and with the plastic bumpers will be more suited to be a "warhorse" 4x4

even at £9495 its STILL the cheapest brand spanking new 4x2 on the market

and for its off-roading capabilities....truly a bargain ....can beat it
 

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This is taken off the dacia UK website today.

It clearly shows on the access model, bottom half of bumpers plastic and top half painted.

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I know, Dacia are still misrepresenting the Access and have been since Jan 2015. If you download the latest .pdf brochure you will see that the bumpers are now black - if you zoom in it's clearly a very crude Photoshop job over the original brochure. The configurator hasn't been updated and there is no notification or information on the website informing potential customers of this significant change, which people could misleadingly buy online if they weren't as well informed.
 

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Personally I think this looks better in my eyes, and even more rugged than when they're painted. I'd happily own one with black bumpers, but each to their own I suppose.

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I get what you're saying and I can see pros and cons for both:

Pros: Less paint to chip or scratch or flake

Cons: Looks cheap/dated and will fade quickly when exposed to UV

I could actually forgive Dacia if they wasn't misrepresnting the Access with outdated pictures and they passed the cost savings (likely to be in the region of £250-£500 per vehicle) to the customer.
 

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you have to rememeber that £9495 is for the 4x2

the "basic" 4x4 petrol Access....is a little more cos your paying for the different 4x4 engine, and the spare wheel...

£11495

of course...in life....the more you pay....the more you get...

you can't expect "Laureatte trim" for "Access prices"

thats why every car marque has different trims and different specs for each car they sell...so that there is one to fit all budgets....

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if your looking at the 4x2 duster....its worth looking at the Stepway....cos then you'll get a higher spec of trim

the the laureatte Stepway is £9995 --- bargain for a crossover IMHO

just a thought

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agreed G.....and with the plastic bumpers will be more suited to be a "warhorse" 4x4

even at £9495 its STILL the cheapest brand spanking new 4x4 on the market

and for its off-roading capabilities....truly a bargain ....can beat it
Not wanting to be pedantic, but at £9495.00 it's only 4x2, you have to fork out £11495.00 for 4x4 capability in it's most basic Access guise. If the basic and capable Duster 4x4 was under £10K then it would be a cracking deal and Dacia would corner the market no question...
 

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Haven't checked personally but can you get another brand new 4x4 for less than £11,495?
 

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if your looking at the 4x2 duster....its worth looking at the Stepway....cos then you'll get a higher spec of trim

the the laureatte Stepway is £9995 --- bargain for a crossover IMHO

just a thought

DM x
Thanks, I know 4x2's sell well in many crossovers, but personally I think 4x2's are for posers - all style and no substance, OK you've got the ground clearance, but there's very little else to back up those rugged looks. Yes there is a few mpg difference in the fuel economy, but in the Duster 4x4 you can lock it in 4x2 when you're not off road anyway. And in my mind you either need a 4x4 for x amount of off roading, or you don't need one and you can get an estate for load carrying and better on road driveability or a city car for commuting.

There are people who don't think SUVs/crossovers should exist at all, but I think they are good at compromising and fulfilling the need of someone who wants to do mostly road driving, with occasional off roading, but they don't want the expense and hassle of running 2 cars (albeit they might do both jobs more effectively).
 

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Haven't checked personally but can you get another brand new 4x4 for less than £11,495?
Thanks, I have done a lot of searching around, the Daihatsu Terios used to be a good bargain new buy at around that price, but alas they don't import anymore. Suzuki Jimny and Lada Niva have good ability but are a tad smaller. To be honest though (and I know the argument has come up on numerous other threads), £8995.00 would be a bargain for a 4x4, but when you add £2K for 4x4 and perhaps go up a model or 2, you start to get in the region of £12,000-£15,000 and think to yourself that actually you could have a really good (and more desirable to those not in the know, when you come to sell) low mileage Pathfinder or Freelander 2 for that price.

But anyway we are getting a bit off topic now and I would be happy with a new Dacia Duster Access 4x4... Just sort yourselves out Dacia, update your website and pass the cost savings onto the consumer, or bring the painted bumpers back. It's insulting and rather ironic to feel short changed by a budget manufacturer that asks customers to do the Maths! I have done the Maths Dacia and you need to reduce the price of the Access to reflect the savings you've made in not painting the bumpers...
 

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Thanks, I have done a lot of searching around, the Daihatsu Terios used to be a good bargain new buy at around that price, but alas they don't import anymore. Suzuki Jimny and Lada Niva have good ability but are a tad smaller. To be honest though (and I know the argument has come up on numerous other threads), £8995.00 would be a bargain for a 4x4, but when you add £2K for 4x4 and perhaps go up a model or 2, you start to get in the region of £12,000-£15,000 and think to yourself that actually you could have a really good (and more desirable to those not in the know, when you come to sell) low mileage Pathfinder or Freelander 2 for that price.

But anyway we are getting a bit off topic now and I would be happy with a new Dacia Duster Access 4x4... Just sort yourselves out Dacia, update your website and pass the cost savings onto the consumer, or bring the painted bumpers back. It's insulting and rather ironic to feel short changed by a budget manufacturer that asks customers to do the Maths! I have done the Maths Dacia and you need to reduce the price of the Access to reflect the savings you've made in not painting the bumpers...
But in 4 / 5 years the Duster COULD be as desirable as pathfinders/ freelanders , I am not saying they will mind. Hopefully anyway !
 

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With reports of the phase 1's rusting away like they are, I think the poor owners will be lucky if they pass an MOT without welding in 4/5 year's time, let alone achieving a good trade in/resale price...

I get what you're saying though and I hope people's perceptions will change also, especially if I become an owner of the Romanian built Duster one day... :)
 

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I don't know if this information is common knowledge, or even if anyone else cares (yet), but Dacia have completely dropped the painted front and rear bumpers for the entire plastic portions of the Duster Access model produced from Jan 2015 onwards. Which if anyone hasn't seen yet makes the model look very cheap and dated.

When I complained at the dealers about not only the new lack of painted bumpers, but also the lack of passing on the savings associated with the cost cutting to the consumer, after a bit of pressure they then showed me an email from Dacia which was for "internal use"! Dacia sent an internal memo to all dealers stating that "they were removing the painted front/rear bumpers from the Access model to make it easier for dealers to upsell to Ambiance or Laureate models".

What frustrates me is that they try to get people in the doors by offering seemingly great value prices - originally £8995.00 for a new 4x2 Access model (now £9495.00). And then they are actively and unsympathetically trying to con gullible people into parting with more cash than they can afford for higher spec models by continually reducing the desirability and cost cutting on the budget model.

I'm not a hater or badge snob and I was a big fan of the Dacia brand and budget/value concept with proper ability for on and off road use, but after the rust issues and now this underhanded tactic it's the final blow for Dacia for me. I was literally about to purchase an Access 4x4 for £11,495 but I have now done the maths and walked away after waking up to the shocking and underhanded tactics from Dacia!

If anyone is interested I don't want the Ambiance or Laureate models because they are more expensive and for me defeat the object of a budget 4x4, I don't want a diesel engine and I don't want aircon or other gadgets and gizmos. I just want a simple, honest, budget 4x4 and the Access was the perfect answer to that, before they started making it look like it is something from the 80's/90's.

If there are any other prospective Access purchasers joining me in this boycott please comment as I'm sure it would interesting for Dacia UK (if they ever come across this) to know how many customers they have turned away...
That's how the duster access has been on the continent since 2010. Does the new 2015 duster brochure say body coloured bumpers? What did the configuration say on dacia UK website when you looked last?
This is taken off the dacia UK website today.

It clearly shows on the access model, bottom half of bumpers plastic and top half painted.

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Current printed brochure definitely depicts the Access with full black bumpers.

While I can sympathise to an extent with the feeling of disappointment if you were expecting the half-painted bumpers, in all honesty I can't see that Dacia will care one jot if folk boycott the Access versions. I doubt very much if they make a profit on these versions painted bumpers or not; they're a "loss leader" to get folk into the showrooms.

This tactic is no different to what all manufacturers do. I remember a magazine article some years ago in which the reporter toured various dealers posing as a prospective buyer of the lead-in version of one of their models (Ford Escort was among them - which gives you an idea of how long ago this was). In each and every case, the lead-in model would have to be specially ordered, whereas they were offered the next level up from stock, with a healthy discount that made it not much pricier than the lead-in!

Personally, I don't mind the look with the fully unpainted bumpers, but if it's that much of an issue, you could always get them vinyl wrapped for a fraction of the cost of painting?
 

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Haven't checked personally but can you get another brand new 4x4 for less than £11,495?
I happened to be looking into this the other day. The closest in price is the Fiat Panda 4x4, which starts from £14,295 and could probably be shoehorned into a Duster with the seats folded!

Mind you, it does have painted bumpers.... :ph34r:
 

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I think everyone is missing the point:

1. Dacia have cheapened the desirability and manufacturing of the Access vehicle and have not passed the savings onto the consumer

2. Dacia continue to misrepresent the Duster using out of date configurator images on their website

3. Dacia have done this underhandedly with the aim of increasing the likelihood of an upsell

I know I could vinyl wrap/paint at my expense, but why should I when it was standard 1+ months ago?! I guess by the comments on here, there are no supporters of my cause, which I'm fairly surprised at given how everyone here loves doing their Maths, but it's fine - I tried ringing the Samaritans, but they we're engaged. ;)

Just remember if Dacia keep stripping away their cars like they are, then soon you'll be left with skateboards and don't come running to me for support! ;) :p
 

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I think everyone is missing the point:

1. Dacia have cheapened the desirability and manufacturing of the Access vehicle and have not passed the savings onto the consumer

2. Dacia continue to misrepresent the Duster using out of date configurator images on their website

3. Dacia have done this underhandedly with the aim of increasing the likelihood of an upsell

I know I could vinyl wrap/paint at my expense, but why should I when it was standard 1+ months ago?! I guess by the comments on here, there are no supporters of my cause, which I'm fairly surprised at given how everyone here loves doing their Maths, but it's fine - I tried ringing the Samaritans, but they we're engaged. ;)

Just remember if Dacia keeping stripping away their cars like they are, then soon you'll be left with skateboards and don't come running to me for support! ;) :p
I do understand where you're coming from, and I agree they ought to update the website to reflect this change.

If memory serves, the Indian-built Duster was originally supposed to be sold with unpainted bumpers, but they started appearing with them half-painted, so I suppose it could be viewed as simply a short-term bonus that has now been withdrawn.

In any case, if the choice was, lose the painted bumpers or increase the price by another £500, I suspect most prospective buyers would choose the former. It is, after all, a purely cosmetic thing.

The crux of the issue here is the failure to update the photos on the website, but for which I suspect you wouldn't be so annoyed...
 

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With reports of the phase 1's rusting away like they are, I think the poor owners will be lucky if they pass an MOT without welding in 4/5 year's time, let alone achieving a good trade in/resale price...

I get what you're saying though and I hope people's perceptions will change also, especially if I become an owner of the Romanian built Duster one day... :)
Sorry , I should have been more specific , I was referring purely to the Facelift Duster :)
 
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